Discussions That Are Academic

debateThere are some discussions/debates that are purely academic in nature, meaning that they have no real bearing on anything practical.  Is Superman strong enough to beat up the Incredible Hulk?  It doesn’t matter who wins the debate, there is no practical application for the results.  Since the characters are fictitious, there is no way to actually know the answer.

Some questions are impossible for us to answer, yet we debate them endlessly.  Even if we knew the answers, I’m convinced that in some cases it wouldn’t make any difference.  And yet in Christianity we resort to calling each other heretics, apostates and false teachers when we disagree about issues that in the real world on a practical level do not matter.  The debate is purely academic in nature.  We cannot know who is right, and in the greater sense of sharing the Gospel and building the Kingdom it doesn’t matter anyway.  I have two such examples in mind.

1) How old is the earth?  For this discussion, let’s limit the possibilities to two; 6,000 years or else 4.5 billion.  The young earth creationists calculate the age of the earth to be 6,000 years based on the recorded generations from Adam to the birth of Jesus.  This means that some things in our universe are young, despite having the appearance to scientists of being old.  If the earth really is only 6,000 years old, then the Creation Museum is dead on with their saddled-up T-rex exhibit. 

Many Christians have no problem accepting the scientific findings that indicate the earth is over 4 billion years old. Then we get into weird permutations of this argument over whether or not God used evolutionary processes to get the biological diversity that exists today.  Here’s where I come down on the age of the earth debate: It doesn’t matter. 

I teach history at private Christian school.  If the sky parted tomorrow morning and an audible voice said that the earth is 6,009 years old to the day, I still plan to give a South Asia test to my geography students.  On the other hand, if creationists and geologists have a town hall meeting to announce they agree on the old earth hypothesis, and Billy Graham is there to tell evangelicals to believe it, I’m still giving the South Asia test.  My message in the pulpit of how God is gracious to forgive our sins will not change.  My wife will still by 37 weeks pregnant.   We are all still obligated to love our neighbor was our self.  No matter how long it has been here, this heaven and earth will pass away when God creates new ones.  That’s the only thing that matters.

2) Has God predestined and elected those he will save?  I don’t know why I still debate 5 Point Calvinists, but I do.  At the end of the day, neither they nor I are willing to change our minds.  That alone makes the debate academic.  In that particular discussion, neither party is even listening to what the other has to say, just waiting for their turn to speak. 

I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that my sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus Christ, and I will dwell in God’s presence for all eternity.  Whether I believe that I choose to accept salvation or God pre-determined my salvation before the world began (presumably between 6,000 and 4.5 billion years ago) is a moot point.  I am saved; how God saved me is not the issue.  Debating that fact will not change it.

Some of the most adamant 5 Pointers I know (my own pastor being one of them) are the also the most vocal evangelists.  My church pastor travels once or twice a year to Haiti.  He trains local pastors to minister to their own people.  We send basic supplies like aspirin, band-aids, and hydrogen peroxide – as well as money – with him when he goes.  He believes that from the mansions in Beverly Hills to the third world nation slums, people need to hear the Gospel preached.  As long as he and I are “in the trenches” so to speak sharing the name of Jesus Christ, then predestination is an academic discussion.  As long as we are building the Kingdom, does it matter which of us is right on this issue?  And if you’re nodding you’re head, keep this in mind: we cannot know in this lifetime which one of us is. 

Finally: Arguing loudly in public (on radio, television and Internet) about such things as the age of the earth and Limited Atonement is not what the world needs to see and hear Christians doing.  Regardless of how old the rocks in my garden are, the lost need to hear that God loves them.  When Christians slam one another with vicious and cruel attacks on their character, we all loose credibility with the very people that  need to trust in us. If we can’t even agree with each other, why should anyone else listen to us? 

Some things matter more than others.  I hope on this we can find common ground.  The Gospel must be preached to the nations; we as Christians must become more like Christ; the hungry need to be fed, the naked clothed, the thirsty given a cup of water in Jesus name.  We must be the salt and light, and in so doing make a difference in this world. 

And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’  The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.

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2 thoughts on “Discussions That Are Academic

  1. Clark,

    While I agree with the overall premise of your post, there is something to be said about the defense of truth. Small sacrifices of what one believes (in what you refer to as academic discussions/debates) in the name of unity, may ultimately lead to a larger, uncontrollable erosion of the core foundational truths of the Gospel.

    J. Gresham Machen’s “The Gospel in the Modern World” vigorously warns us about retreating from certain truths that we hold dear. “The batlle between naturalism and supernaturalism, between mechanism and liberty, has to be fought out sooner or later; and I do not believe that there is any advantage in letting the enemy choose the ground upon which it shall be fought. The strongest defense of the Christian religion is the outer defense; a reduced and inconsistent Christianity is weak; our real safety lies in the exultant supernaturalism of God’s Word.” While it may seem that he is talking about confrontation with some outside enemy, in fact, he is making a case against those who hold to the Christian faith, but have allowed liberalism (for the sake of unity) to creep in and toss them to a fro.

    Your point about Christians “slamming” one another aloud in public is right on. That is a sad testimony of the character of the persons, but I don’t think it is indicative of the honest debate between Christians as a whole.

    Personally, the study of Genesis helped procure my faith far beyond what I merely learned by sitting in Church services Sunday after Sunday. I considered myself an astute student of God’s Word, and I claimed that the Holy Spirit was my guide and mentor for the “hard things”. Yet, on an intellectual level, like so many others, there were those questions that I wished I could explain. People such as Ken Ham (Answers in Genesis), and Henry and John Morris (Institute For Creation Research) gave me valid arguments to the plausibility of a “young earth”. They helped me understand that science needs the earth to be millions and millions of years old in order to give credence to the Theory of Evolution. Without the time, and without the mass transitional fossils, the theory simply doesn’t hold up…particularly macro-evolution. I knew that I could take God at His Word when He said that He created the world in six days and rested on the seventh. There is no need to look deeper for something that isn’t there. There is no need for hypothesis.

    Through those organizations and their apologetics, my faith has been greatly increased. Not that God needs my knowledge and intellect to defend His Word, but because of the truths found therein, I am compelled to offer my life as a “living sacrifice”. It is for His glory and His glory alone.

  2. Sonny Davis makes a valid argument for not compromising the truth. The word for that is integrity. I also support academia; my profession is teaching. Sonny’s assertion that small sacrifices in what one believes is what I call academic disscusions is not exactly true.

    Let’s say that Bill is a 5 point Calvinist and I am not. We can discuss the merits of both points of view, but should still be able to sit next to each other in the choir. We can have an academic discussion on this (or any) topic, but shoud still be able to sit peaceably at the same table. This post comes as my reaction to recently reading a reformers blog calling everyone not in the Predestination camp apostates and heretics. That’s a little extreme.

    There are many academic discussion/debates that can take place without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I believe and encourage Bible reading, study and meditation. A healthy discourse is valuable to us all. But we as Christians must not beat each other to death over details of our faith while the masses around us die and go to hell. In between our preaching at each other, we must feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, SHARE THE GOSPEL and love our neighbor as self.

    Do not compromise what you believe; but at the same time keep an open mind. It is arrogance to think there is nothing left we can learn about scripture.

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