JC Penny, Ellen DeGeneres and One Million Moms

One Million Moms (40,000 members strong) is putting pressure on JC Penny to drop Ellen DeGeneres as their spokesperson.  They claim customers with “traditional values” will be turned away.  DeGeneres responded by saying “Here are the values I stand for. I stand for honesty, equality, kindness, compassion, treating people the way you’d want to be treated and helping those in need. To me, those are traditional values.”

I am morally conservative.  I am pro-life, but abortion isn’t really the issue.  Of course women have a right to choose; choose to honor God with your bodies and the issue of abortion as birth control would be a moot point.  Guys, same for you.  I believe marriage is between one man and one woman.  But you will never see me at a rally carrying signs and yelling at the general public.  When a state referendum allows same sex marriage bills to pass, to me that’s demonstrates the success of the political process not the failure of Christians to win the culture war.  The United States government is not the church I attend.  Jesus told Peter three times to feed his sheep; he never said anything about saving the world.  Read Mark 4 and explain to me why Christians should be doing anything other than spreading the Gospel.

JC Penny is a commercial retail outlet.  Ellen DeGeneres is a television talk show host.  JC Penny sells stuff, mostly clothes.  Women shop more than men, usually buy more clothing than men, and so JC Penny carries and sells way more women’s clothing than men’s.  Ellen is a woman that wears clothes, and brings a built in audience with her.  She’s not a shabby dresser, and (just my opinion) there are plenty of straight women that wear pant suits.  JC Penny is a commercial endeavor that operates in the retail market.  They produce commercials ads to peddle their wares, mostly to women.  Ellen is a t.v. personality that women watch.  These are the relevant facts.

Oh yeah, and she’s a lesbian.  But I gotta tell you, I don’t see what one has to do with the other.  Conservative moms who want their daughters to grow up heterosexual would stop shopping at JC Penny because the woman in the commercial is a lesbian?  If we were talking about a church selecting a lesbian pastor this might be a news story.  JC Penny is a department store; the only values your kids learn from those places is consumerism.  Teach your children the values you want instilled at home, take them to church with you (taking them to church and sending them is two different things) and then apply what you’ve learned when you go out into the world.  Department stores illustrate everything that is right and wrong with capitalism.

The Apostle Paul was well aware of the bath houses and what went on there in the Greek cities he planted churches in.  His overwhelming desire was to spread the Gospel in every place, thus we never see him carrying a sign at the bath house about God hating fags or anyone going to hell.  We will not save souls on the floor of the Senate.  Killing abortion doctors makes you a murderer, not a “Christian soldier.”  Pray for our nation, and do your civic duty on election day.  Continue doing unto others as you would have done unto you.

Dragging a gay high school student behind a building and betting the crap out of him is not Christ-like.  Shouting in people’s faces they are going to hell is not Christ-like.  Do not tell someone they are going to hell without sharing the Gospel.  A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  What we have is a generation of zealous “Christians” that haven’t read the Bible.  During the Middle Ages, the Crusades resulted from a similar situation.  That’s an extreme example, but it proves my point.  Look at Jesus, look at Paul, listen to what they are saying, then imitate them.  Jesus prayed for the people that were crucifying him.  All people are God’s people, even those who reject him.  Our battle (Ephesians 6) is not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places.  People that are not Christian is our mission field.  Our burden should be for the lost.

JC Penny is a secular business and therefore morally neutral.  The mall should not be where our values come from.

4 thoughts on “JC Penny, Ellen DeGeneres and One Million Moms

  1. A lot of sound logic here. So much “Christian” response to the wrongs in this world is definitely non-Christian and will turn people away from Christ rather than drawing them to Him.

  2. I don’t do boycotts. Takes way too much time and energy to figure out which companies I’m supposed to avoid. So, that fact that a business supports same sex marriage, buys oil from Venezuela, give money to Obama’s campaign for re-election, etc. will not keep me from shopping at its store. I remember a few years ago when the Southern Baptist Convention supported a boycott of Disney because of their support of gay rights. A group of believers decided to go to Disney on ‘gay day’ and spend the time sharing the gospel with the homosexuals there. Interesting contrast I’d say.

    In First Corinthians chapter 5 Paul reminded them that he had written to them earlier not to associate with immoral people, greedy people, idolaters, etc. But he tells that he doesn’t mean not to associate with those types who are in the pagan world around them, otherwise they’d have to withdraw from the world altogether. What he means is rather not to associate with anyone in the church that behaves in such a manner, but to put him/her out of the church……presumably to bring that person to repentance.

  3. You folks are really missing the point! It is one thing when a company is neutral but to still purchase from a store that actively support this!! I am old enough to remember when the homos began to get active in the mid 70s’ From being classified as a mental disorder (thanks Jimmy Carter) to being protected and promoted from the federal government into the school systems just sickens me. The success of this type of perversion is won when it does not offend or even will disturb normal people. I thought it was odd to speak of a faggot getting beaten but not one word of pity for the 13 year old boy that was raped and tortured by a couple of queers. Guess you did not hear about that in the news did you. So yes, get excited about the words I use, but pay no attention to the depravity that is around us. And Brian, so sorry it takes to much “time and energy’’ for you to do a simple search. I will just have to do a little bit of work in order for you to stay in your comfort zone.

  4. I guess David will not be buying Oreo’s either.

    Yes we are surrounded by depravity. But before each of us knew Christ we were also depraved. Our natural state is depravity. It’s easy to preach a fiery sermon on homosexuality but when is the last time you heard one on church pastors addicted to internet porn? Yes, the Old Testament and New Testament agree that homosexuality is a sin. It is also a sin when a married man looks at another woman, which even Jimmy Carter admitted to.

    All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. “The homos” are not the enemy. Satan is the enemy, sin is the enemy, but all people are created in the image of God. That’s who Jesus died on the cross for, people that hated God but he loved anyway. None of us deserve new life that comes through Jesus Christ; not me, not David Smith, not Ellen Degeneras nor any other person. Christ loved us while we yet sinners. And we are commanded to have the same mind in us that Christ had. Jesus talked to poor people, touch lepers, showed tender compassion and mercy to the Samaritan woman at the well. Other women in the city did not associate with her, men would not talk to her (in public) and no Jews did any business with Samaritans. But Jesus knows the enemy when he sees it, and “sinners poor and needy” are not it.

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